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The Discipline of Self Awareness / La discipline de la conscience de soi ... English & French
The gradual drift that precedes leadership failure rarely makes headlines until it's too late. In this profound episode, Bishop Harvey, General Superintendent of Australia and pastor of The Pentecostals of Sydney, unpacks the critical discipline of self-awareness that can protect spiritual leaders from becoming another statistic.
With alarming research showing 90% of pastors reporting frequent fatigue and 89% having considered leaving ministry, Bishop Harvey provides a roadmap for sustainable leadership through seven areas of essential self-awareness. From recognizing creeping cynicism that erodes wonder, to acknowledging our blind spots, biases, and the dangerous "Messiah syndrome" that drives burnout, his message offers both warning and wisdom.
Drawing from biblical examples and personal experience leading churches across Australia and the Pacific, Bishop Harvey demonstrates how small, unchecked attitudes eventually become major ministry liabilities. His practical approach includes developing disciplines like the five-minute journal, establishing trusted relationships with honest feedback, and recognizing emotional triggers before they lead to destructive behaviors.
What sets this conversation apart is the rare vulnerability from a high-level leader discussing not just external leadership challenges, but the internal work required for lasting ministry impact. Bishop Harvey models the very humility he advocates, offering practical tools while acknowledging his own journey toward greater self-awareness.
Whether you're a seasoned minister, emerging leader, or simply someone who cares about spiritual health, this episode provides essential insights for avoiding the subtle erosion that precedes public failure. Take this opportunity to examine your heart, recalibrate your leadership approach, and establish practices that will sustain your ministry for the long haul.
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Speaker 1:And we are doing that together in the partnership of faith. If you missed last week's session with Prophet Bobby Wade, I want to encourage you to go back and listen to that on Facebook. I have been irresponsible in the last two weeks and have not been able to do my job and get all of the last two episodes published on YouTube and the podcast. We've been just enjoying some time, my wife and I, and the internet has been challenging on the ship, and so we're two weeks behind but we're going to get those published.
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Speaker 2:My daughter deeply appreciates your support. We receive messages every day to let us know that this book has impacted you and we are so grateful for this. My daughter is very grateful.
Speaker 1:But today we are incredibly honored and humbled to have Bishop Harvey with us honored and humbled to have Bishop Harvey with us.
Speaker 1:We love this man of God. General Superintendent of Australia. Pastors a great church, the Pentecostals of Sydney. I recently saw there's a podcast. One of the brethren in his church runs a podcast called Hackpod and I recently saw an episode where he was on there and I'll put a link to that in the chat as well. That was a great episode, but my daughter Aliyah and I had the privilege to come through the Pentecostals of Sydney maybe last year. I guess my camera is doing something here. I don't know what's happening. It looks like somebody's trying to call me and this is. I don't understand why people don't understand. Apostolic mentoring is every single Monday at 1 pm Eastern time is every single Monday at 1 pm Eastern Time.
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Speaker 1:But we love Bishop Harvey and we want him to just speak what thus saith the Lord and we thank him to just speak what thus saith the Lord. And we thank God for his ministry and his leadership, not just in Australia but around the world. Bishop, thank you for being with us today and please take your liberty.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Brother Robinette, and greetings everybody. I'm coming to you from Eureka, California, After having attended General Conference in Long Beach and I had the wonderful privilege of preaching for Pastor McDonald yesterday and we had a wonderful move of God. I will be traveling back to Australia later this evening, but I am so very privileged and honored to be here on this platform of apostolic mentoring. I am so appreciative of the ministry of Brother Robinette. As he said, he came over through as he was traveling through to Sydney last year as he was traveling through to Sydney last year.
Speaker 2:And on that Sunday, when he ministered, we had 37 people receive the Holy Ghost on that one day. We were just so blown away by that ministry, and so I am so thankful to be a part of this platform here today. I was able to represent Australia at the General Conference.
Speaker 3:The truth came to the name of. Glenn Bogue came and preached the truth there and he built the start of the church that I now pastor in Sydney pastor in Sydney. And Australia is. The size of Australia is about the size of the United States, but with only 26 million people, not even the population of California.
Speaker 2:Not even the population of California, but we have about 80 churches and daughter works and we have 150 licensed ministers. But for a small church I feel like we're kind of punching above our weight. We've started mission fields in Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands.
Speaker 3:And we have sent missionaries to Indonesia and East Timor and also support a lot of the works in the Pacific Islands.
Speaker 2:Nous avons été missionaires en Indonésie, en Timor, et nous soutenons aussi d'autres offres missionnaires.
Speaker 3:So I want to share something today that is on my heart as superintendent of the work in Australia.
Speaker 2:Je vais partager quelque chose qui est sur mon cœur en tant que surintendant de l'œuvre en Australie ce soir. It is a very important issue, I believe that can be a detriment to the work of God.
Speaker 3:And as we push for a revival and a worldwide harvest.
Speaker 2:I think there are some things that we have to deal with in order that the work is not stymied. I believe that there are things that we have to be aware of as leaders, because we are all susceptible to weaknesses and shortcomings. The Bible says that Elijah was a man of like passions as we are.
Speaker 3:That means that we share in the same human nature that we have with vulnerabilities and inconsistencies, and recently, we have seen very prominent church leaders that have fallen.
Speaker 3:Not necessarily within our movement, but large megachurch pastors Just in the last 12 months who have stepped away from ministry because of moral failure and, in some cases, outright abuse, and I'm convinced that there is nothing more detrimental or a reproach to Christ than when leaders fall, and so I just want to share a few statistics with you. According to the Francis Schaeffer Institute of Church Leadership Development, selon le développement de l'Église, pour le développement du mouvement they surveyed over a thousand pastors.
Speaker 2:Ils ont fait une enquête auprès d'une centaine de pasteurs.
Speaker 3:They surveyed over a thousand pastors.
Speaker 2:And 100% of them had a close association or seminary friend or buddy who had left the ministry. 90% of the pastors stated that they are frequently fatigued. That they are worn out on a weekly basis 89% of the pastors were surveyed were also considering leaving the ministry at one time.
Speaker 3:57% said they would leave if they had a better place to go, including secular work. Now I realize that these are from all different denominations, but even in the apostolic church we are not immune to the same struggles. How many of us have also heard of ministers, pastors, who have taken their own lives tragically, and we see time and again that people who have been in ministry that have given up the ministry and walked away from the Lord from the Lord.
Speaker 3:And I know all of us different ones have all varied issues that they struggle with. But what I have been passionate about is by teaching our leaders to learn the discipline of self-awareness, and that's what I'm going to talk about today. Paul admonishes, when taking the communion, that a man should examine himself, that he should have the sense of what's going on inside of him, internally. He tells us in 1 Corinthians 10 and 12, he says let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Speaker 3:It is just a simple warning that when we think we are strong, that's when we need to watch out. Perhaps it is when we are at our strongest position, that is when we are the most vulnerable. Brother Bernard at General Conference preached a wonderful message and he cited Hebrews, chapter 2, that says therefore, we ought to give the more earnest heed, in verse 1, to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
Speaker 2:Let them slip, verset 2. C'est pourquoi nous devons d'autant plus nous attacher aux choses que nous avons entendues, de peur que nous nous soyons portés loin d'elles.
Speaker 3:The writer of Hebrews encourages us to give heed to the things which we have already heard.
Speaker 2:L'auteur des Hébreux nous encourage à nous attacher aux choses que nous avons déjà entendues Not just give heed to it, but give it earnest heed. Not just earnest heed, but more earnest heed, lest we should allow those things to slip away.
Speaker 3:And that's how often a minister falls away.
Speaker 2:C'est souvent ainsi qu'un ministre tombe.
Speaker 3:It is not an overnight failure.
Speaker 2:Ce n'est pas une chute ou un échec du jour au lendemain.
Speaker 3:But it has been a long gradual process.
Speaker 2:Mais c'est un processus long et graduel.
Speaker 3:Of drifting.
Speaker 2:De s'éloigner.
Speaker 3:Of slipping.
Speaker 2:That cannot always be seen on the surface. It is not too obvious. But it has been a gradual decline Within the heart of the man and woman of God. Jeremiah reminds us that the heart is deceitful above all things, and it is desperately wicked. And then they ask the question who can know it? Et il pose la question qui peut le connaître?
Speaker 3:And he says I, the Lord, search the heart.
Speaker 2:On dit moi, le Seigneur sonde les cœurs.
Speaker 3:And so I think this is what stands leaders above the rest.
Speaker 2:Je pense que c'est cela qui fait mettre les leaders au-dessus des autres.
Speaker 3:It's this ability to look inwardly.
Speaker 2:C'est cette habilité de s'examiner à l'intérieur, this, this ability to look inwardly, the sense of transcendence.
Speaker 3:The ability to assess oneself.
Speaker 2:And sometimes the courage to assess oneself, to be able to see all of our shortcomings and failures. But just as a little disclaimer here, I don't want us to necessarily create a sense of self-obsession or become so inward focused but I want us to have a discipline of being able, or become so inward focused, but I want us to have a discipline of being able to guard our hearts. That's what Proverbs 4 and 23 says Keep your heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life, because we cannot be oblivious to ourselves.
Speaker 2:And oftentimes, as I said, we are unaware of the things that are underneath. Like a little, comme je dis, on n'est pas conscient des choses qui sont en dessous.
Speaker 3:Like a little leaven that ruins ultimately the whole lump.
Speaker 2:Comme un peu de levin qui va gâcher toute la pâte.
Speaker 3:In Matthew, chapter 7, jesus calls us to pay attention to ourselves.
Speaker 2:Matthew, chapter 7, the Lord calls us to pay attention to ourselves.
Speaker 3:In verse 1 of Matthew 7, he says judge, not that you be not judged, For with that judgment, with what judgment you judge, you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured back to you. And verse 3, it says and why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
Speaker 3:He says we could be so proficient at looking at others' failures and yet be totally ignorant with this piece of two-by-four sticking it out of our eye.
Speaker 3:Jesus calls him a hypocrite, and so this is something, I believe, that is so critical and such a drawback to revival and growth Is when we offend other people, is when we are callous and hurtful to others, and I believe that, as leaders, we must lead when it comes to finding a sense of self or emotional health. John Calvin said without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God, and I believe that when the unknown becomes known, transformation takes place. And when I say the unknown, I'm referring to the blind spots that we have, and we all have them. If we are honest enough, we all can acknowledge that we have them and remember that we often judge ourselves by our intentions and we judge others by their actions, and so this is a discipline that is needed for ministers and leaders. So what do we need self-awareness in? Firstly, I believe we need a self-awareness of our sense of cynicism, and cynicism is when one becomes distrustful of human sincerity.
Speaker 2:Le cynisme, c'est quand on devient méfiant au niveau de la sincérité humaine.
Speaker 3:And none of us start off in ministry with the goal of becoming jaded or distrustful Personne tant que nous, on commence le ministère avec le destin de devenir méfiant. All of us started in this with a sense of idealism. We were filled with the zeal of God's work. We simply wanted to fulfill the great commission. It was very, very simple, but as we are elevated into higher levels of positions and dealing with different levels of leadership and people, we get hurt. We are overlooked.
Speaker 2:We get hurt, we are overlooked.
Speaker 3:We get disappointed. Leaders disappoint us. Even we feel a sense of disappointment from God and slowly but surely we start to become cynical. Somebody criticizes our ministry. A message or teaching or preaching that we worked on for hours. We feel it didn't do so well.
Speaker 2:And oftentimes, when there's no acknowledgement, we feel a sense of being deflated and we start to question. We question the sincerity or intentions of others. We question the sincerity or intentions of others.
Speaker 3:And so how do we overcome this cynicism? Well, cynics are never curious and the curious are never cynical. So let's never lose that sense of curiosity. Let's not lose that sense of curiosity.
Speaker 2:Let's not lose that sense of wonder.
Speaker 3:A quote from Rabbi Abraham Heschel. He said I didn't ask God for success, but I asked for wonder but I ask for wonder we can be in church for so long and become so used to even the presence of God that we can lose that sense of wonder, that sense of wonder.
Speaker 2:That sense of awe.
Speaker 3:We simply just have to remember when we first received the Holy Ghost. It was the greatest experience that we've ever had. When we were first baptized and come to the realization that God has removed all of our sins, there is just this overflowing joy. But time has a way and sometimes the disappointments of life have a way.
Speaker 2:Of eroding away that sense of wonder, we've got to remain curious and wonder of God. Cultivate a teachable spirit. Jesus said in Matthew 18, except you be converted and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker 3:This was his indictment towards the Pharisees he was calling them to be as little children again, to have that sense of awe and wonder. Whosoever, therefore, shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Remember, in the Garden of Eden, that this was the serpent's mode of operation. He created a sense of cynicism in the mind of Eden was the snake's way of acting.
Speaker 2:He created a sense of cynicism in the mind of Eve and Adam.
Speaker 3:By simply asking the question did God say you shall not surely die, for he says. For God knows that in the day that you eat of it you will know good and evil. The serpent was creating that sense of doubt towards God's intention towards them.
Speaker 2:This is in fact cynicism.
Speaker 3:So don't become jaded, don't allow the failures in church to keep you from continuing to have that sense of wonder and awe for God. Secondly, we should be aware of our sense of ignorance. We need to have a knowledge of the extent of our own ignorance. We know a lot of things, but we also have to recognize that we are unaware of many things. I like the saying the more I know, the more I don't know. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 13 that we only know in part in verse number 9, and we prophesy in part. We only know a little sliver of truth, oftentimes in any given circumstance, and it's okay for us to say I don't know. It's good to have a point of view, but we must be aware of not becoming so opinionated, because opinions are like noses.
Speaker 2:Everybody's got one.
Speaker 3:Now it's important, of course we hold to our convictions. God's word never changes, but as we deal with people and circumstances, we must often have to reserve opinions. You might get upset at someone, but don't be so critical of them and be judgmental, because we only see a short window of our interaction with them and we're not fully cognizant of what they've been through. Now I'm not excusing bad behavior or bad attitudes, but I'm just simply encouraging us for us to be slow to react.
Speaker 2:But quick to react. Mais je nous encourage à être lent à réagir.
Speaker 3:But quick to listen.
Speaker 2:Mais prompt et rapide à écouter.
Speaker 3:In the story of the prodigal son.
Speaker 2:Dans l'histoire du fils prodigue.
Speaker 3:The younger son was ignorant of the value of what he had. Le plus jeune était ignorant de la valeur qu'il avait that he demanded to have his inheritance he wasted it all in riotous living, and then the Bible says that when he came to himself, when there was this sense of self-awareness that came to life in him, Quand la conscience de soi est revenue en lui. He recognized that his servants in his father's house had it better than him.
Speaker 2:Il a reconnu que les mercenaires dans la maison de son père avaient une meilleure vie que lui-même.
Speaker 3:And thus his sense of redemption began. Repentance started and he made his way back to his father. Now the older brother, however, was just as ignorant when he came back to the house and saw that his father put on a feast for his younger brother.
Speaker 2:And he got angry, was upset.
Speaker 3:But the reason he got angry was because he was also ignorant.
Speaker 2:But the reason he got angry was because he was also ignorant. Ignorant in knowing of the value that he had. In his relationship with his father and also in the life that he was living. In both instances, both brothers were ignorant, and one came to the realization of his ignorance but the other didn't, and so it is vital that we are aware of that. Thirdly, we should be aware of our own arrogance. Pride, of course, is one of the most insidious attributes.
Speaker 2:And it creeps us, creeps up in the recesses of the human heart. Sometimes, as leaders, we have this sense of a need to always be right. This need to always be heard. And, of course, pride is so insidious, as I said, that the moment we think we've conquered it, we lost it.
Speaker 3:Pride comes back.
Speaker 2:Pride comes before a fall. Of course Satan was cast out of heaven because of pride, and it is something that, of course, as a leader, we are in an elevated position. On Sundays we may be standing on an elevated platform, and pride is something that we've got to constantly be on the lookout against. Humility is not necessarily to put yourself down, but somebody said humility is the accurate estimation of who you are in Christ, that everything we have is from God.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying for us to beat ourselves up over the head, but we must realize that it is in him that we have everything in this life, because humility without God is simply putting yourself down.
Speaker 3:But humility with God is recognizing who you really are in Christ. Philippians, chapter 2 and verse 3 tells us to it don't be selfish, don't try to impress others, but be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves.
Speaker 2:Ne faites rien par esprit de partie de vaine gloire, mais que l'humilité vous fasse regarder les autres comme étant au-dessus de vous-même. And the more we humble ourselves the Bible says, the more God will lift us up. The tragic story of King Saul tells us that he was rejected because of pride.
Speaker 3:And obviously God allowed the children of Israel to have a king and in fact he gave concessions in Deuteronomy, chapter 17. He gives allowance for a king, but he tells him in Deuteronomy 17 that the king must not have a large stable of horses verse 16. He tells him in verse 16. He tells them in verse 17 the king must not have many wives for himself, because they will turn his heart away from the Lord. Exactly what happened to King Solomon. But he says, when he sits on the throne as a king, exactly what happened to King Solomon.
Speaker 2:But he says, when he sits on the throne as a king, he must copy for himself in verse 18, this body of instruction. In other words, he must be focusing on God's word.
Speaker 3:He's allowing for them to be able to have a king, but he gives these stipulations because as a king, you're in an elevated role, but you must have all of these things that are in moderation, so that his heart is not filled with pride. This is something that we must be very self-aware of. Somebody said sometimes being offended is a sense of pride said, sometimes being offended is a sense of pride.
Speaker 3:If someone thinks lesser of you or doesn't like your social media posts, or you don't get invited to an event. Sometimes we can feel slighted or offended.
Speaker 2:Or you didn't invite an event. Sometimes we can feel rejected or offended, but it's simply our pride reacting. Sometimes we get upset at other people's pride. Ever experienced that?
Speaker 3:And that may come from a sense of our own pride, superficiality, when we become more concerned about what others think about us. That is a sense of pride Finding fault in others.
Speaker 2:Or mocking.
Speaker 3:That is a sense of pride, even a sense of defensiveness. We become defensive, defensive about our ministries, defensive about our positions. And Jonathan Edwards said for the humble Christian, the more the world is against him.
Speaker 2:The more the world is against him, the more silent and still he will be, Unless it is in his prayer closet, and there he will not be still.
Speaker 3:In Marshall Goldsmith's book what Got Us here Won't Get Us there. He says that when we get to upper levels of leadership, the subtle behaviors and attitudes become more exaggerated in others.
Speaker 2:Les attitudes et comportements subtils deviennent plus exacerbés chez les autres.
Speaker 3:And successful leaders have to become aware of these nuanced habits.
Speaker 2:Et les leaders qui ont le succès doivent devenir plus conscients de ces habitudes.
Speaker 3:He quotes that we so often focus on teaching leaders of what they need to do.
Speaker 2:Il dit nous devons tellement conscients de ce que les leaders doivent être renseignés sur ce qu'ils ont besoin de faire.
Speaker 3:And not enough of what they need to stop.
Speaker 2:Et non vraiment sur ce qu'ils ont besoin d'arrêter.
Speaker 3:And he lists 20 things that we should stop. And he lists 20 things that we should stop and I don't have time to go into all of that, but just to name a few. He says we need to stop winning too much. The need to win. We have this need to win. Winning too much, the need to win we have this need to win at all costs.
Speaker 2:To win a debate, to win an argument.
Speaker 3:And sometimes we can win an argument.
Speaker 2:But lose a relationship. I remember when I first started getting on to Facebook many years ago. We would start having all of these debates online. On avait tous ces débats en ligne.
Speaker 3:And I just felt that I needed to say something.
Speaker 2:Et je ressentais le fait de dire quelque chose.
Speaker 3:But I quickly realized what was meant to be a 10-minute discussion.
Speaker 2:Je me suis rapidement rendu compte que ce qui était censé être une discussion de 10 minutes.
Speaker 3:I would end up being there for 3 hours Je finissais par y être plus de 3 heures.
Speaker 3:I would end up being there for three hours responding to arguments and after three hours I realized I was never going to get these people to believe the way I believe now. If that is your thing, then that's fine. Go for it if you have that time. But yeah, I quickly realized I don't have time to be arguing, making debates on social media. We don't always have to win every situation or we probably need to remove from our lives adding too much value. We all know somebody that always has to add their two cents to every discussion. They always have to add their opinion. We don't have to always add too much value. We need to stop passing judgment, stop making destructive comments, stop saying or starting a conversation with no and then saying however or but.
Speaker 2:And on and on. I would encourage you.
Speaker 3:It's a great leadership book. Number four we need to be self-aware of our own biases because it's a great book on leadership.
Speaker 2:Fourth, we must be aware of our own flaws, or the fact that we have too much importance to ourselves. We have more interest in those who are close to us. We must be sure that our decisions and our actions are not always self-serving. Be cautious of nepotism, Giving positions or opportunities to only those who we are close to. Obviously, we can't avoid using those that we trust that we've developed a relationship with.
Speaker 3:But I'm just talking about how it all starts, with a sense of being aware of these things. God is no respecter of persons, so be cautious of a sense of favoritism. James chapter 2. So be careful with favoritism. James chapter 2 he talks about how if in an assembly a man comes with a gold ring, who is very wealthy, and another man who is poor, who has got not good raiment or clothing, and if another man who is poor, who has got not good raiment or clothing, Et que si un autre pauvrement vêtu arrive.
Speaker 3:And you treat partially the one that is wealthy over the one that is poor.
Speaker 2:On a tendance à mieux traiter celui qui est riche que celui qui est pauvre.
Speaker 3:I try to tell our church back home, because whenever we have, for example, guest speakers that come from overseas after service, everybody wants to take a selfie with them, and that's wonderful. And yet there's somebody that comes through our doors, and that's wonderful.
Speaker 2:And yet there's somebody that comes through our doors. Maybe doesn't look the part, maybe may even look disheveled and doesn't smell very nice.
Speaker 3:I tell them, why don't you take a selfie with them?
Speaker 2:Why don't you treat them with the same sense of enthusiasm and excitement? I think that would change the culture in our church, the whole culture of our church. Everybody wants to rub shoulders with the preachers.
Speaker 3:And again, that's fine, but it should never be at the expense of those who come to our doors who need God.
Speaker 2:So let's be aware of our own biases. Need God, but it should never be too dependent on those who enter the church in need of. God, so let's be aware of our own biases.
Speaker 3:Let's be aware of number five be aware of our assumptions or our world views. Somebody said if you were a hammer, everything would look like a nail. We all have these presuppositions and it is often furnished by our life experiences. Our assumptions are formed by our cultures. So let's be aware of our assumptions. Abraham assumed that the promised inheritance may be through his servant or through another woman, and of course we know the problem that his assumptions caused. So don't always assume everything by our presuppositions.
Speaker 2:So don't always assume everything by our presuppositions. But if we will assume, let's always assume the best. Let's continue to assume the best in people.
Speaker 3:And I'm on a hurry now.
Speaker 2:So, number six, let's be self-aware of our overload. There's nothing, again, more dangerous to a leader than when he is overloaded or burnt out.
Speaker 3:Somebody said much of Western civilization is ridden with disease, and one of the worst diseases is hyperactivity, especially when we have to deal with ministry and balance ministry and work. It is a challenging task balancing work, home and ministry, and so we can easily become burnt out.
Speaker 2:And so we can easily become burnt out, and burnout leads to all kinds of destruction in the life of a leader. It is a contributing factor to marriage breakups. Depression.
Speaker 3:Backsliding and I know we want to give our all for the Lord, but we must establish balance. The Lord gave the children of Israel Sabbaths for rest and I know there's many leaders who feel guilty when they don't work or they have to rest. But you must give yourself permission.
Speaker 2:To have a Sabbath.
Speaker 3:I remember when Brother David Bernard talked about how he took a long sabbatical period and I know myself personally he gave me a sense of permission to take time off.
Speaker 2:And, of course, it is so refreshing and reinvigorating, personally gave me a sense of permission to take time off Et cela m'a donné aussi, à moi personnellement, la permission de prendre du temps, and of course it is so refreshing and reinvigorating. Et c'est tellement rafraîchissant.
Speaker 3:Beware of the Messiah syndrome.
Speaker 2:Ayez conscience du syndrome de Messie.
Speaker 3:There is only one God.
Speaker 2:Il y a un seul Dieu.
Speaker 3:And you are not him.
Speaker 2:Et vous n'êtes pas Dieu. There is only one Messiah and he doesn't call us to be that. So beware of your overload and make sure you establish balance. Number seven we must be aware of our emptiness as ministers. We can be so occupied with giving and ministering and unfortunately I don't think it's automatic that we will be refilled. But we must be intentional with being filled, such as platforms like this apostolic mentoring.
Speaker 3:I so enjoyed being a general conference where I didn't have to minister, but I wanted to just open my heart completely and let the Lord fill me up again, and this we must do on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:And this we must do on a regular basis. So those are seven aspects. I think we need to be developing self-awareness in and very quickly, just to encourage you number one in order for us to develop more self-awareness, prayer and devotion is critical.
Speaker 2:We must fight to protect our time of prayer and devotion, and I must confess that prayer sometimes is a struggle, but this is why it's called spiritual disciplines. Number two we must have trusted relationships. You need to have someone in your life that can speak to you honestly and directly. We all need pastors, even if you are a pastor.
Speaker 3:I encourage us that we all need a pastor for ourselves, so make sure you have somebody in your life that has veto power in your life. Number three journaling is very important. I always used to think journaling is and please don't misunderstand what I'm saying I always felt like it was just for adolescent girls that would write their journals, but when I started journaling myself, it was so helpful to be able to reflect throughout my day.
Speaker 2:And if you don't have a lot of time for journaling, I want to share a resource with you. It's called the 5-Minute Journal by IntelligentChchangecom. It helps us to get into a habit of self-reflection and it literally only takes five minutes. Number four understand your life story. I don't know if you've ever heard of the story of a man by the name of Bob Pierce. He was the man that started World Vision. He grew it into a large organization, doing great things, but even as he was helping children all around the world, he neglected his own family, even where his daughter had sought for his attention On the verge of suicide. He refused to come home and sadly, she took her own life. He would be eventually kicked out of the board of World Vision and he ended up passing away in a hospital somewhere in Southeast Asia Without one family member beside him.
Speaker 2:So understand your life story. Number five get some counseling Always so helpful. Nothing mystical about counseling. It's simply about sharing what's in your heart. Number six be honest with yourself. Identify your strengths and your weaknesses. Number seven know your emotional triggers.
Speaker 3:Know when you are feeling a sense of emptiness and being flat perhaps a craving, a sense of dopamine increase, be aware of those happy hormones. They call it dose.
Speaker 2:Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin and endorphins.
Speaker 3:And so it got to know sometimes when those things are void from our bodies we tend to seek for things to compensate, including food and for many, a lot of young men, for example, pornography. Those things are so prevalent today, and particularly the younger generation. Number eight be a student for life. There's always more that we don't know than what we do know. And number nine ask yourself questions. And just to end off, just a couple of resources. A book by Carrie Newhoff Called Didn't See it Coming. I'm sorry the book is Called Didn't See it Coming. Sorry, the book is called, did Not See it Coming.
Speaker 2:And the book is called in English. I Didn't See it Coming.
Speaker 3:And another book is called the Self-Aware Leader.
Speaker 2:And another book is called the Self-Aware Leader.
Speaker 3:By Terry Linhart.
Speaker 2:By Terry Linhart.
Speaker 3:Amen, well, I'll end it there.
Speaker 2:And I just want to say thank you again for this opportunity to share with you and I want to encourage you to continue in this discipline of self-awareness. Thank you, hey, Bishop Harvey this has been an incredible apostolic mentoring session.
Speaker 1:So much meat and just kingdom critical words. I would really appreciate it, bishop, if you would just. We have so many global leaders on this call and we have so many nations represented every single week, and I just would really love it if you would just take a moment and pray over every one of these leaders, sir.
Speaker 2:Amen.
Speaker 3:Father. I thank you, lord Jesus, for this wonderful opportunity we have together. I pray, lord, now, as we gather as ministers, leaders from all around the world. Lord God, that we occupy this critical position of being a leader, lord God, that we don't want to be a reproach to Christ by our hypocrisy or inconsistency. Yet, knowing that we are flawed individuals, that we are broken human beings, lord, we are in need of you, and so I pray, lord God, that you would give us this sense, a keen sense of self-awareness, not to become self-absorbed or be self-consumed, but, lord Jesus, help us to know that if there's a plank in our eye, lord, that we would be able to deal with it. Lord Jesus, as we lead our people, as we lead our churches into revival, into growth, let there not be any kind of little leavens that could ruin the lump, or little foxes that could spoil the vine. But, lord Jesus, let us be as human beings, as hearts, minds that are clear and cleansed with God and that have this ability, lord Jesus, to be able to be a sense of self-awareness, of knowing what's going on in our hearts, that we would not be cynical, that, even when things don't turn out the way that we expect or want it, lord God, that we would continue to stand for you as examples, as beacons, as lights to those that are around us, to continue to be an example and a model for our faith in you.
Speaker 3:Help us to be faithful as leaders. Help us to be loving towards our people, as shepherds, leading them, lord, with love and with kindness and with gentleness. Let us not only be proficient in ministry and proficient in our work, lord God. Let us not just be spiritual, but let us also be emotionally well and healthy and whole, that we may establish an environment and cultures within our churches where people can thrive and can grow and where love is shared among one another.
Speaker 3:Continue to help us to grow, continue to bring revival and fruit for our labors as leaders, as laborers in your vineyard, lord God, in every portion throughout this world of the great vineyard and the Lord of the harvest that would give to us a great harvest in these last days. I thank you, lord, for all of these leaders, as you bless us, as you guide us, as you direct us, in every aspect of our lives and our ministry. We thank you once again that we can partner with you, that we can work together with you for this end time harvest. We pray for your blessings to be upon us and all of these leaders that are here today. We give you all glory and honor in Jesus name.
Speaker 2:Amen Amen.
Speaker 1:Again, what a powerful kingdom critical word we received today and, friends, I know we are so used to having such kingdom critical words. I pray that this word today is not something that we just hear, but it's something that we digest and we do something with it. Please share this episode with all of your friends, church members, on your social media pages.
Speaker 2:Merci de partager cette émission avec tous vos amis, toutes vos relations, votre Église.
Speaker 1:This is so valuable for God's Church.
Speaker 2:Ça a tellement de valeur pour l'Église de Dieu.
Speaker 1:I've put in the chat just now. Everybody take notice of this real quick. I put the link to the five-minute journal that Bishop spoke about and the book. What Got you here Won't Get you there.
Speaker 2:Je viens de mettre des deux liens dans le commentaire le journal de cinq minutes dont le Bishop a parlé et le livre. Ce qui t'a amené ici ne t'amènera pas là-bas.
Speaker 1:And I know that a lot of our Facebook viewers right now are not seeing a lot of this texting.
Speaker 2:I do apologize for that. We're having trouble with internet here on the ship and I couldn't get it to't allow us to post these comments.
Speaker 1:Bishop also gave other books here in the chat and put it onto Facebook on the live feed. That way everybody there is able to get these books and recommended resources as well.
Speaker 2:Quelqu'un qui a une bonne connexion internet, merci de copier ces différents liens et de les mettre sur Facebook pour que tout le monde puisse les avoir, and these will all be available in the information section of the podcast and YouTube channel as well. I do want to say thank you all for being here today. Thank you to Bishop Harvey. Oh my goodness, what a word.
Speaker 1:Pastor Cook put in the chat just an amazing statement about this man of God that I'm just going to say. It was a direct message to me, but I think it's worthy to be spoken out loud. Pastor Cook had the opportunity to meet Bishop Harvey at General Conference. This is a massive statement what I'm about to say, and what I'm about to say is extraordinary, massive statement.
Speaker 2:What I'm about to say, et ce que je suis au point de dire est extraordinaire.
Speaker 1:Pastor Cook said I would have never known he was the general superintendent of Australia.
Speaker 2:Pastor Cook a dit je n'aurais jamais pu penser qu'il était le surintendant de l'Australie.
Speaker 1:He didn't feel the need to tell Pastor Cook who he really was. Il n'a pas ressenti le besoin de dire à Pastor Cook qui il était vraiment.
Speaker 2:They just connected and they were just servants of the one true God together.
Speaker 1:And I just think Brother Cook said what a very humble man and that's how I felt when my daughter and I got to meet this man of God in Sydney, australia. He just represents such humility and it was just an honor to get to be with him in the church he pastors and in the field that he leads.
Speaker 2:You guys know how I love genuine. Genuine is cool. I love genuine people, I love sincere people.
Speaker 1:That's Bishop Harvey, really genuine apostolic leader. So don't forget, share, like, subscribe, get these words out to people. And I'm really excited about the rest of this year of apostolic mentoring Some really cool things that we're going to be having we're going to tell you about a little bit more later, maybe next week. I'll share with you some cool secrets about what we're going to do the rest of the year.
Speaker 1:But looking forward to seeing you all next Monday 1 pm Eastern Time and I think I'll be live from Columbus Ohio next week. I think I can't remember. Sister Robinette is sitting over here she said yes, that is where I will be next Monday and that will be great, but love you all very much. Thank you to all of our translators. You all are amazing. Thank you all for the birthday wishes and anniversary wishes. We have felt so loved and blessed by every message.
Speaker 1:Next year, instead of sending messages, feel free to send money. That's the first. That's the second thing I've. I've anything. I've heard from sister robinette during this entire session. She reminded me I'd be in ohio on monday and then, when I said, money she said yes yes, yes, thank you, brother sayers.
Speaker 1:He put in the chat a reminder. Uh, don't forget one of those announcements we want everybody to fill out that review about apostolic mentoring, about. He just put it in the chat about moving to tuesdays so that we could have more time, my wife and I could have more time as a family each week uh, also thank you, pastor sayers, for having me in the comments.
Speaker 2:we are going to do a research among you for the change from Monday to Tuesday, so that my wife and I can spend more time together as a matter of fact, after hearing what Brother Harvey said, if anybody puts no on that, you are not in the will of God. And in fact after what Brother Harvey said if someone says no, you are not in the will of God.
Speaker 1:All right, do what you always do. Take yourselves off mute.
Speaker 2:Say goodbye and I'll catch you all next Monday. Goodbye everyone, God bless you, thank, you Thank you, god bless you. God bless you. God bless you, god bless you, god bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you, god bless you God bless you. God bless you all. I love you so much. God bless you.
Speaker 1:Brother Robinette, love you, love you, love you all.
Speaker 3:It's an honor to be with you.
Speaker 1:Love you, Bishop Harvey. I'll send you a text. Love you, man of God. Thank you.
